Episode 605 - Rapid Fire Q&A #3
In this episode, Jeremy and co-host Andrew Adams take on another iteration of the Rapid Fire Question and Answers.
Rapid Fire Q&A #3 - Episode 605
Jeremy and co-host Andrew Adams tackle a series of questions from you, the listeners, in the form of a Rapid Fire Q&A. Here are the questions they tried to answer:
What would be your everyday carry weapon and why?
Should cardio be a large part of a black belt test?
What skills do you recommend for immediate self-defense use?
when do you start branching out after studying your principal martial arts?
How would a martial artist do in a zombie apocalypse?
Show Transcript
You can read the transcript below.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Hey, what's going on everybody? Welcome! This is whistlekick Martial Arts Radio episode 605. Today, Andrew and I... we're doing another rapid-fire Q & A episode. You guys seem to like these so stick around and in case you are listening, know that there is a video version of this episode. You can check us out. You can see our collective lack of hair over on YouTube or, you know, your podcast feed. Whatever works for you and in case you don't know me or my voice, I'm Jeremy Lesniak. I'm the primary host here on Martial Arts Radio, founder of whistlekick, joined by my illustrious co-host, Andrew Adams - good friend, great martial artist. I appreciate you being here today, bud. And...
Andrew Adams:
No, problem. It's always great to be here.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yes, it's a good place to be, isn't it? We get to hang out and talk about martial arts. Why do we do this? Well, it's in support of whistlekick, which is in support of traditional martial arts in general. If you want to see what we do at whistlekick beyond this show 'cause we do a lot of stuff, go to whistlekick.com. Check it out. It's our online home. This website, this show...ha! If this were audio only, I could edit this easier. This show gets its own website, whistlekickmartialartsradio.com. We bring you two episodes each and every week. All under the heading of connecting and educating and entertaining the traditional martial artists of the world. Now, if you like what we do, if you wanna support what we do, we've got a few things that you can do to help us out. You can make a purchase at whistlekick.com. Use the code podcast15. That's number one. Number two, you could check out our new program website, whistlekickprograms.com. The strength, speed, and fight conditioning programs that we've got as well as the others that are in development right now will get their own home now, whistlekickprograms.com. And for the first time ever announced, you can get discounted bundles of those programs so check that out.
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Andrew Adams:
No, but maybe. Maybe. I don't know.
Jeremy Lesniak:
We bring you a bunch of exclusive stuff behind the scenes. We tell you about upcoming guests, exclusive audio, video content, book drafts, drafts of the programs, coaching/training calls with me, depending on the tier. Lots of stuff that we throw at you, so consider supporting us and we'll give you more than you're giving us in value. That's the goal anyway. So, Andrew...
Andrew Adams:
Yes?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Thanks for the best laugh I've had in days. I appreciate that.
Andrew Adams:
I've been planning that for two whole weeks.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I'm not surprised. That's fantastic. I really hope you guys are gonna watch this. It's worth it just for that.
Andrew Adams:
My work here is done.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It really sounds like this was some big gimmick to get people who listen only to watch. I wish we were that clever. Maybe that was your intent. It was not my intent. I didn't know about it. Literally, 'til just now. Now, I'm gonna be on guard when I say it. What's he gonna do? What else crazy is he gonna do?
Andrew Adams:
Well, you know, a little step behind the curtain. You know, ever since you caught me off guard by asking me to do the intro for the first time...which really threw me off guard, I stumbled. If longtime listeners, if you've listened to all of them, you may remember that I was like, I don't know where the intro goes, the outro goes. You know, this is episode 605. I mean, I've listened to them all. You would think I would know, you know, "train hard, smile, and have a great day." and I could remember.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It's the one thing that hasn't changed.
Andrew Adams:
I know...
Jeremy Lesniak:
We changed everything else.
Andrew Adams:
And ever since that, I'm like, "I gotta do something that gets Jeremy". So, that was it and you have to watch it to see. Amazing.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It's great.
Andrew Adams:
Moving on...
Jeremy Lesniak:
Back to fire Q&A.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, rapid fire Q&A.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You've got some Q's.
Andrew Adams:
These are all Q's that have come from...with the exception of one, they've all come from listeners of the show...
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay, nice.
Andrew Adams:
...which is great.
Jeremy Lesniak:
And I know you're getting some of those from the Facebook group, the whistlekick Martial Arts Radio - Behind the Scenes. So, if you're watching or listening, if you're not in that group, you should check it out. It's a closed group. We don't tolerate any BS in there. So, unlike a lot of groups out there, you know, there's no junk. There's no crud. It's just conversation about the show, the guests, the topics. It's not even about martial arts in general. In fact, people can't post their own stuff. It's only for the handful of us that work on the show. We can post and you can respond. That's how we keep that stuff down. So, if you want to go deeper if you like the show, it's a great place.
Andrew Adams:
Absolutely.
Jeremy Lesniak:
A little bit of time.
Andrew Adams:
Yup. It's a great place and, you know, a lot of great discussions happen there including people sending me questions that they want you to try and answer. Not try and answer. I mean, you're gonna answer them.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I'm gonna answer them. Might be a terrible answer, but I'm gonna answer it regardless.
Andrew Adams:
Well, we're gonna find out. Are you ready for question number 1?
Jeremy Lesniak:
I am ready. Bring it on!
Andrew Adams:
Alright. So, this question comes from Jared Wilson.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Hey, Jared! Shoutout, host of Martial Thoughts.
Andrew Adams:
Absolutely.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Good friend, good guy.
Andrew Adams:
And his question is, if you could mythically get rid of firearms, what would be your everyday carry weapon and why?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Mm. So, for anybody who has read the novel that I wrote, The Katana Chronicles Book 1...
Andrew Adams:
Great book.
Jeremy Lesniak:
... that was an important step. Now this, I'm assuming that Jared is asking this completely unrelated but I'm gonna mention it because some of this is gonna sound like I'm just really quickly coming up with it and I'm not being that fast with it. In that book, in order for the martial arts to come through, it was important to me that guns be far less common than they are today. So, I needed to work through a lot of things politically, socially, that would extract guns in a reasonable, realistic way. So, I've spent a lot of time thinking about this and when I think about what makes sense from a common usage, safety, and variability in lethality, which is important, right? If I'm gonna use the weapon, I don't want it to be...so like a firearm. If I shoot someone with a gun, it is big damage. Even if I shoot you in the foot, that's a big deal versus stepping on your foot or hitting your foot with a stick, right. So, I think that is important if I'm gonna pick one thing and that's why I come at it from like a hiking stick, a cane, some kind of staff. Not something that's overly formal. Something that my people will look at and go, "Ugh, you're a weirdo." When you carry a cane, people tend to think of you as vulnerable and that may invite more situations than it saves. I have the fundamentals for using a cane. I'm not gonna say I'm competent and I'm not gonna teach anybody. But if you learned how to use martial arts weapons, you can kind of adapt to all one of this stuff back and forth.
I have walked around with a cane before because I wanted to see what it was like. People instantly were like, "What's wrong? You okay? Is your leg broken? What's happening?" So, it invites a lot of questions but if I walk with a hiking stick, the type that I might bring on a hike...If I walk around town with that, people just think I'm a weirdo. So, from a self-defense perspective, it actually creates more distance 'cause that's not a bad thing. But if I want to take that concept and do something that it is, um, has something maybe a little bit more concealable, something that is going to create less social barrier between me and others, it's a collapsible baton. I've been exploring this. They are all over the place. They've gotten super inexpensive, and I have not found the ones that I like. I gave my brother about two years ago for Christmas. You may have seen it looked like rolled-up aluminum foil.
Andrew Adams:
Oh yes, I have.
Jeremy Lesniak:
And you would push a button that will pop out.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, I had one.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It was surprisingly durable. It's not something that you're gonna use repeatedly but if you needed it once, it made a lot of sense. What I liked about it is you can put it in your pocket. What I didn't like was that there was a reasonable chance it was gonna go off in your pocket.
Andrew Adams:
Yup.
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, that's kinda what I've been looking for. Now, there are collapsible batons that will get down to, you know, 8, 10-inch range and you could easily, you know, tuck that up under your belt or something. So, if I had to pick one thing, that's what it would be - a collapsible baton. Very long-winded way to get there.
Andrew Adams:
No, that's great. My answer was I went through the same though process as you in terms of a cane makes me look vulnerable so might bring more attention than I wanted. A full 6-foot staff, that's maybe a bit not...I don't want to say unwieldy because we fight with them all the time but that might be, in terms of an everyday carry item, that might be a bit much. I was thinking like a 4-foot joe like a walking stick, and it would make me look weird and funny and I'm okay with that.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yup.
Andrew Adams:
So, excellent. Good answer. Not that there's a wrong answer. It's, you know, whatever you want.
Jeremy Lesniak:
The runner up to that would probably be something like brass knuckles, which are illegal to own in Vermont. Surprisingly...allegedly easy to purchase over the internet.
Andrew Adams:
Nah, I wouldn't know.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Me neither.
Andrew Adams:
Alright, you ready for number 2?
Jeremy Lesniak:
I am.
Andrew Adams:
Okay. This is a question that I have posed, and the question is, should cardio be a large part of a Black belt test? i.e., should someone have to run, for example, a 5-minute mile in order to pass your Black belt test.
Jeremy Lesniak:
No.
Andrew Adams:
Okay, and why?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Because I don't understand the logic. Now, I understand the requirement that one be able to move their body long enough to practice. I also understand challenging students in a Black belt, you know, some kind of rank test, to see what they are capable of, but when you apply a hard standard of say something like you have to run a mile in X time, you have to do X pushups in Y time. To me, that breaks one of the greatest things about martial arts which is the ability to have progress recognized regardless of where you start.
I have seen people test for Black belt as young as, you know, early teens, and as old as 60's and 70's. Having the same standards for both is ridiculous. To take it further, I have seen individuals with special physical needs, wheelchairs, etc., and they have been competent even wonderful martial artists with incredible skill and so what do you do there?
Well, they clearly can't do that so we're not gonna require it of them. So, it's an arbitrarily applied standard. A standard should be applicable for everyone. Not everyone except the people who can't do it because that's silly to me. So, if it can't apply to everyone, it should not apply. I think when we're talking about a Black belt test, we talk about cardio. I could see, let's say, the ability to spar at a level that is challenging your skill, right. So, there is a subjective element. For a period of time that demonstrates your capacity and capability in that context and having some kind of a... I heard schools call it like a pre-test. Show us that you can run a few miles. You know, let's say, show us that you can run three miles or show us that you can run for 30 minutes, right. There's something that I think gets a lot closer to objective. Someone in a wheelchair could wheel for 30 minutes or wheel a certain distance. Someone on crutches could do something similar. There are a lot of ways that you can get closer to something that is more fairly applied. And here's why I'm down on this. Here's why I came out so strongly initially. I see a lot of martial arts tests that are under the guise of calisthenics. Rather, the other way. Calisthenic tests under the guise of martial arts tests. They really don't have a lot of applicability and even further, the push up form is terrible. The running doesn't actually... you know, you get people that are hobbling along. Their running form is bad. It's damaging their knees and they get into the test and they're not able to even present at a higher skill level. It doesn't look good. So, I'm not saying that it doesn't have a place. I'm saying that if you're using it to fill time, maybe come up with something better.
Andrew Adams:
Yup. I would agree wholeheartedly. I have a very good friend of mine who was eligible to test for his shodan for his Black belt and was unable to complete the running portion of the test, the pre-test, and so was unable to test for Black belt. I find that incredibly sad and unfortunate for this particular individual because it's just not fair.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It's offensive to me as a martial artist.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, it really is. What makes it even worse is he is someone that would be incredible to have on the show and I'm just waiting because he's moved schools. I can't wait for him to finally... because he is a Black belt. As far as I'm concerned, he has been training so long and would great on the show. I'm just waiting. He's gonna get there and I can't wait.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You should not be introducing new things at a Black belt test. If running has never been part of the curriculum, it should not be part of the Black belt test.
Andrew Adams:
Oh, that's a great point. I like that.
Jeremy Lesniak:
If you're running consistently and, you know, let's say as a White belt, you're running a 13-minute mile and you've gotta be able to run at least 3 miles at that pace or something, right? There's a formula you could come up with in there. Then yeah, it makes a lot more sense to me, but I see there's a lot of and, you know what, I've gone halfway there. I'm just gonna finish the thought and risk offending people because I'm just gonna do it. I see a lot of tests that are essentially ego-based, from the perspective of the instructor. It is abuse. I am going to put them through these incredibly difficult, challenging, laborious thing. Don't get me wrong, my first Black belt test was one of the most difficult physical thing I've ever gone through, but every single thing that was done made sense.
Andrew Adams:
Sure.
Jeremy Lesniak:
If it doesn't make sense, if it is not trying to get a true result other than, "I make my Black belts run 17 miles and then they gotta do this, and they gotta wash my car. That's just day 1." I've heard stuff like that.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It's crap.
Andrew Adams:
Yup, there's no purpose for it. Alright, next question. You ready?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Let's do it.
Andrew Adams:
Alright. This was sent in by a past guest just about a month or so, Matt King. The question is, what art/s would you most recommend for its immediate self-defense use right out of the gate?
Jeremy Lesniak:
I hate this question.
Andrew Adams:
There's a reason why I don't give them to you ahead of time.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I know. Here's why I hate this question. Because the very ability that it can be taught, I could...so let's take something that is often thought of as a defensively minded art. Let's take Krav Maga. I could teach you Krav Maga in a way that is useless for a little while.
Andrew Adams:
Okay, so let me change the question a little bit. Instead of what art or what arts, what skills would you most recommend for their immediate self-defense use right out of the gate?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Um, awareness. Most of it's non-physical. So, one through nine on the list, more or less, let's say is non-physical. It's awareness. It's de-escalation. It's communication. It's trusting your instincts. We've done a bunch of episodes on these various aspects. It's don't go to stupid places and do stupid things with stupid people, right. It's like avoiding problems before they come up. But then, number ten is avoidance, ironically based on the last question, running away.
Andrew Adams:
But you typically don't have to run 7 miles.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Hopefully not. And then, on the other side of that, it's how to palm heel people on the face, how to push, how to maintain balance, how to kick people in the shin, how to stomp on people's foot, how to kick in the groin. It's all really, really fundamental stuff that I'm not aware of really any traditional arts school that I've been a part of teaches early on because you need to have the context of when to use it to start training it, right. If you give a 5-year-old, "Hey, now I'm gonna teach you to stomp on feet, kick shins, rake eyeballs, fishhook, fingers to throw, and kick groins," parents are probably not gonna be too impressed. So, it's a balancing act. There's some cliche that's rattling around. I'm trying to pull out, you know, the idea of skill without context or responsibility. Something along those lines.
Andrew Adams:
Gotcha. Yup, no. I think it's... I would agree with what you're saying. One through nine, mostly non-physical stuff.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah. So, art-wise, can we take all that and plug all that into the original question? I think there's so much variability in the way that different schools teach that it is. I am unwilling to really pin that down to a certain art.
Andrew Adams:
Yup, I would agree. Makes sense. Okay, you ready for the next one?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Let's do it.
Andrew Adams:
Okay. This was sent it by, and I'm gonna apologize ahead of time if I mispronounced this name so forgive me, John Franko [00:20:04:13]? Hope I got that right, and his question is something that we feel strongly about, Jeremy, is the cross training in different styles. But at what point do you start bridging out and looking at other martial arts after studying your principle one? When is it too soon?
Jeremy Lesniak:
So, I'm almost gonna take the cop out answer that I do often which is it depends on your why. Why are you training? And you work backwards from you why. So, if my why is let's play the hypothetical I wanna be an MMA fighter, I'm not going to stay doing...I'm gonna make sure that I have trained in at least a grappling and a striking art prior to my first fight. It would be silly not to.
Andrew Adams:
Okay.
Jeremy Lesniak:
If I want to be an open martial arts competitor and I want to compete in point, sparing, and forms, and my school doesn't spar, then I would wanna make sure that I'm getting some sparing training in somewhere before I compete. If the question is more general knowledge, skills I wanna develop as a martial artist, my why is that I want to continue to learn, to understand, and to adapt, I'm gonna say that as a generalized rule for most people, post-first- or second-degree Black belt. It's probably where it makes most sense for most people. Here's where...I get there through process of elimination. I think we could all agree that day 1, you shouldn't be learning multiple martial arts. It becomes really hard. Martial arts is hard enough without having to convince you brain, "Hey I got to do it this way here and that way there." The more different the arts, the easier that may be to reconcile. Again, if you're doing some kind of grappling or wrestling, or boxing, versus let's say Kenpo, Karate, right...there's a time and a place where you could train both of those and the demands on the body, the movement patterns are so different that the body's not gonna be as likely to get confused.
So not White belt. Not Yellow belt. Not that, you know, first year, second year sort of training. Middles belts, Blue, Green, Purple, somewhere in that range, I think martial artists are just starting to get a handle on the basic material. If you have 5 hours a week to dedicate to training, the question is are you going to be better off splitting that between two different arts? And I think for very few cases, that answer is going to be yes. When you start talking about your more advanced ranks, Brown, Red belts... and I get it, if you're listening, if you're new, I'm using the rank, the color descriptions generalized. I hope you're following along with me. Those are the people who need cross training probably the least because they think they know everything. This is where a lot of people drop out because they're not getting new material quite often and going to another school, you... until you transition over into Black belt which, you know, is not a universal experience, but for so many of us we are on our Black belt and we get pass and go, "Oh, look at all this stuff I thought I knew that I didn't." That's when I think you have the humility to cross train. If you're just trying... I've known people who don't do it in this way and it's worked for them. I know people who should never cross train so there's no one size fits all answer.
Andrew Adams:
Absolutely.
Jeremy Lesniak:
But I think if you want a very simple formula, it is - am I gonna get more from the amount of time I have to invest splitting it versus training in one thing? And unless the answer is yes, you shouldn't do it and for most people and most situations, the answer is no. At least until you reach a higher level.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah. I concur wholeheartedly. I think it's also... there's a difference between being a, you know, middle-ranked, Green, Blue, Purple, and going to a seminar in another style. That's like, I have no problem with that but doing some serious training to learn a new style in that rank can be really detrimental. I think Jesse and Camp has a great analogy about, you know, becoming a really good martial artist that's like at the top of the mountain. At the base of the mountain is all the different styles. You know, Karate and Kung Fu, and Judo, Jiu-jitsu, all these other ones. At the base of the mountain, the distance between all of those is very great and it takes a long time to go around the mountain, but as you climb up the mountain, all of those paths are a little bit closer and so it's a little bit easier to get to and understand the differences between. So, yeah, for me, my answer would pretty much be the same. It would be, you know, once you've reached a Black belt in a system, you will have an easier time understanding the different philosophies and movements within a different style.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Think about it like musically. You know, you're the musician here out of the two of us. If you start teaching someone one style of drumming and then you ask them to learn another style of drumming with a different drum, they're gonna lose it. It's gonna be really hard.
Andrew Adams:
Yup.
Jeremy Lesniak:
But if they've been playing a while, they've reached some competency, they have whatever the drumming equivalent of a Black belt is, you give them another drum and you say, "Okay, the differences here are A, B, and C. " They're gonna go, "Okay, I get it."
Andrew Adams:
They get it. Yup.
Jeremy Lesniak:
They're gonna be able to improve their original style through this new training and their original training is going to help them move faster further, more satisfyingly better quality in the new style.
Andrew Adams:
Yup, because they'll have more tools in their toolbox.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah. So, if we go back to that original arbitrary line of 5-ish years, Black belt-ish rank, if you train in two different things day 1 for 5 years, or let's say 10 years, or you train at one thing for 5 years and then add a second thing at that 5-year mark, who's gonna be further along?
Andrew Adams:
Yup, absolutely.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It's the person who waits 5 years before they add the second thing.
Andrew Adams:
Yup. I agree. Alright, last question.
Jeremy Lesniak:
It's the funny one?
Andrew Adams:
So, I said at the beginning that four questions were asked by the listeners of the show and the fifth question was asked by a non-listener of the show and the question asker is my wife, Teresa. Her question is how would martial artists do in a zombie apocalypse?
Jeremy Lesniak:
You and I have talked about this a little bit.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, but not on the show.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Not on the show. Andrew and I have talked about... and at some point, I actually want to do this. The thing that we talked about, the idea. There is a thing that we are going to do at some point that I think would be a lot of fun and I think we'd look really dig. Let's see if we can make time for that at some point in the near future. How would martial artists do in a zombie apocalypse?
It depends dramatically on the style of zombies. I've had this conversation many times. The type of zombie is usually important. Are we talking the 28 Days Later, super fast, aggressive, it's likely not that they are undead but rather some crazy brain thing going on, infection zombie? Or is it Zombieland slow, or not thinking so well? Or is neither the living dead and they're just slowly marching? Ranged weapons become really important here. This is where your ability to use a sword, i.e. Michonne, in the Walking Dead or a bow, or [00:28:45:14] Kyudo, you know. We just had a guest. Well, by the time this comes out, there'll a be a little bit more of a delay, but the ability to not be right there within biting and scratching range, I think it is pretty important. I don't think that most martial artists with their fighting skill are going to be well-disposed to fighting zombies. I don't think most of our skills apply because our whole schtick is that we're going to defend and initiate enough violence that eventually, the aggressor back down. In no iteration of zombies have I ever seen the zombie say, "You know what, that's enough. I'm out." So, you're always gonna lose 'cause they're always gonna be able to bite you.
Andrew Adams:
Yup.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Now, what about the other skills? The skills that we talked about in what was that question two or three? Awareness, being able to move, avoid, balance. You know, you watch your typical horror movie whether zombie of otherwise. People are falling all over the place when they run in high heels or even normal shoes for some silly reason. I think, in that respect, martial artists are going to fair a little bit better. It comes down to a question of recurring theme of the show - ego. Are you willing to say, “You know what, I'm not going out there to save one person at the expense of these forty people in here." or " I'm not going to let my pride ruin me and you know what, I'm sorry that my significant other is being eaten by a pack of zombies. I'm not going to sacrifice myself to know end result." Right? That sucks. It's horrible but that is what I would see being most relevant.
Andrew Adams:
Yup. My answer was that martial artists would think they are a lot more useful than they really would be, but it does depend on the type of zombie for sure. I think those martial artists who've done a lot of weapons training will do a little bit better, but the way they would be useful and helpful in a zombie apocalypse would have way more to do with their ability to train other people in the skills like awareness and the non-physical things. That's where they will be more useful.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yeah.
Andrew Adams:
And dealing with stress.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Yes. I'm running through the list of martial arts weapon right now and I'm seeing a lot of the Chinese-style weapons doing well 'cause a lot of the are on long poles, epilated.
Andrew Adams:
Yup.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I'm seeing bow being useful in a certain capacity. If you have spent all of your time training tonfa, I'm sorry you're gonna get eaten day one. Sai, interestingly, depending on how pointy they are... Sai actually become very useful, I think in this case.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah. I would agree.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Probably not an [00:31:55:29].
Andrew Adams:
Bruss knuckles, nope.
Jeremy Lesniak:
No brass knuckles. No whatever the Kobudo equivalent is.
Andrew Adams:
Tekko, I think they're called. I think.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Tekko?
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, tekko maybe.
Jeremy Lesniak:
I think it's tekko. Yeah, that was a good question.
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, it was fun.
Jeremy Lesniak:
You know what we could do? We could do a master Ken style, you know, what martial artist would do best in the zombie apocalypse? We could grit it out based on we can survive or not.
Andrew Adams:
Like a bracket system?
Jeremy Lesniak:
No, I'm imagining like type of zombies...
Andrew Adams:
Oh okay.
Jeremy Lesniak:
... and skills. You know, how many days would you last? We could put that out there and offend everyone. I think we should do that. That'd be fun.
Andrew Adams:
Alright, sounds great.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Cool. Actually, maybe that all would've come out by the time we hit the stairs.
Andrew Adams:
Who knows?
Jeremy Lesniak:
Alright. Anymore?
Andrew Adams:
No, that was it.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Okay. If people want to submit questions for number four, what should they do?
Andrew Adams:
They should send them to me at andrew@whistlekickmartialartsradio.com. I'd think for a second.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Could remember that?
Andrew Adams:
Yeah, I got it.
Jeremy Lesniak:
Nice, alright. Thank you. That was fun. These are fun because I can just kind of ramble which is my favorite thing about live. Rambling. Alright, got to whistlekickmartialartsradio.com if you've got guest suggestions. If you want to check out other episodes. If you want to read more about the show, yada yada. Sign up for the newsletter. There's ton of stuff over there. Check it out. And if you want to support us and all in what we're doing, we've got options. Like I said, you can go to whistlekickprograms.com. Pick up the strength, or the speed, or the fight conditioning program. There is no zombie program. At least not yet. Maybe we'll make one. The code podcast15 at whistlekick.com will get you 15% off anything over there. And yes, the training programs are still there so you can take advantage of that but there's no bundle discount over there...which the bundle discount is even better. And of course, the Patreon, patreon.com/whistlekick is the place to go if you want that exclusive stuff that we provide to those of you willing to part with a few bucks. Starts with $2 a month, honest. Not making that up, $2 a month and you're in and I appreciate that. What else haven't I mentioned? I mentioned the strength and conditioning program. I mentioned the discount code. Guest suggestions, I mentioned that. Our social media accounts are @whistlekick. My email, jeremy@whistlekick.com and let's close it out, Andrew. Until next time...
Jeremy Lesniak and Andrew Adams:
... train hard, smile, and have a great day.