Episode 1157 - Why Confidence in Martial Arts is Often Misunderstood
Jeremy and Andrew discuss the subject of confidence and cockiness in the martial arts and how it differs from ego or arrogance.
Why Confidence in Martial Arts is Often Misunderstood - Episode 1157
SUMMARY
In this episode of Whistlekick Martial Arts Radio, Jeremy and Andrew delve into the often misunderstood concept of confidence in martial arts. They explore the differences between confidence and ego, the importance of experience in building true confidence, and how learning through failure is essential for growth. The conversation also touches on the impact of arrogance in the martial arts community and the responsibility of instructors to foster a healthy environment for students. Ultimately, the episode emphasizes the need for open discussions about confidence and self-evaluation within martial arts schools.
TAKEAWAYS
Confidence is often misunderstood in martial arts.
There is a difference between confidence and ego.
True confidence is quiet and calm.
Learning through failure is essential for growth.
Arrogance can stem from a lack of self-esteem.
Instructors have a responsibility to check arrogance.
Discussion is key in martial arts schools.
Real confidence often looks a lot quieter.
Engaging with the community helps build confidence.
Promoting someone does not fix underlying issues.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
03:04 Understanding Confidence vs. Ego
06:01 The Role of Experience in Building Confidence
09:04 The Quiet Nature of True Confidence
11:59 Learning Through Failure
15:00 The Impact of Arrogance in Martial Arts
18:00 The Importance of Self-Evaluation
21:00 Teaching Confidence vs. Arrogance in Schools
24:10 Engaging with the Martial Arts Community
26:46 Conclusion and Call to Action
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SHOW TRANSCRIPT
Jeremy (00:17.41)
Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Whistlekick Martial Arts Radio, the Milky Way's number one traditional martial arts podcast. As far as we know. We're at least top ranked on this planet. And if you're new to the show, you might think, man, this is starting in a weird way. Well, that's kind of what we do here. We are a bit unconventional. Maybe we're traditional with our our arts.
But maybe a little untraditional with how we approach talking about them. And that's why people stick around. So if you're new, thanks for being here. If you're if you're back, we really appreciate you spending some more time with us. And as always, you can visit whistlekick.com for all the things that we do as an organization to connect, educate, and entertain all of the traditional martial artists out there. Now, today's episode is titled Why Confidence in Martial Arts is so often misunderstood.
If you want to go deeper on this episode that I'm about to do with my great friend Andrew Adams. Andrew, that's awfully deep without me acknowledging it. I'm sorry. I I was on a roll in a weird way. That's well, thank you. go to whistlekickmartialarts radio.com, find the transcript, find links, find other episodes. Remember, part of why we do the transcripts, it's it's not just because people want to read them. It's because you can search them.
Andrew Adams (01:22.633)
It's all good. It's all good.
Jeremy (01:43.785)
And if you are so inclined, our martial arts radio transcripts are very deeply embedded, to my knowledge, in all of the major AI platforms. So if you have questions about what was discussed on an episode or maybe what episode to go to for certain topics or advice, don't be afraid to not only search in your, I mean, let's face it, everybody searches in Google, but to ask ChatGPT or Claude or Gemini or whatever AI tool.
You might be using into the future. And so with that, Andrew, we should probably dig in because I think the longer we go, the more misunderstood we will be. And that feels awfully counter given the title and subject of this episode. He says while wearing his Ninja Turtles hat.
Andrew Adams (02:25.635)
Mm.
Andrew Adams (02:32.503)
Yeah, Kawabunga, let's go.
Andrew Adams (02:37.805)
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Jeremy (02:45.293)
Yeah.
Jeremy (02:49.026)
Yeah. Yeah, it's a gr it's a great hat. And they would be a fun sponsor. I don't know how we get that. But yeah. All right. Well
Andrew Adams (02:55.063)
Hm, that would be fun.
Jeremy (03:04.076)
I think confidence within the martial arts world has it has some specific challenges, but I don't think we can start without acknowledging that there is both some misunderstanding and some confusion, which are are slightly different, between confidence and and let's call it ego or swagger. Cockiness, yeah. And
Andrew Adams (03:10.562)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (03:29.879)
Yeah, or or cockiness. Yeah.
Jeremy (03:34.082)
You know, w in Western culture, a large portion of the population discourages public displays of confidence. It is labeled as arrogance.
Andrew Adams (03:51.65)
Yeah. Yeah. Air arrogance and the e and the ego are so intermeshed and entwined it's hard to separate them at times.
Jeremy (04:03.532)
Yeah. And and of course, given that we are first and foremost people who exist in Western culture and we are training martial arts, where we train is going to dictate some of the things around how we train. So I I think it's important that we acknowledge that. But I don't think either of us have any issue with someone being confident.
Andrew Adams (04:27.563)
No, no, not at all.
Jeremy (04:29.186)
There are things that you are really good at. You know you're good at them. I know you're good at them. Everyone around you knows that you're good at them. It is a reality that you are good at them. Why should we pre-pretend otherwise? Ignoring reality is insane. As martial artists, ignoring the reality of what is does not serve us.
Andrew Adams (04:33.517)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (04:53.313)
Yeah. Yeah, and that confidence, like it's easy for me to be like let's talk drumming. Okay. It's easy for me to be confident in my drumming and play whether it's with a a rock band or with a bagpipe band or whatever. Because I have decades of experience and I have proven myself at competitive levels and I can be confident, but I I can also
Jeremy (05:02.328)
Yeah.
Andrew Adams (05:24.097)
choose to or not to be cocky about it and have an ego and swagger about it. Confidence is is very different.
Jeremy (05:32.135)
And and your attitude towards your drumming skill is probably the perfect example because what you do and and your skill at doing it, especially on the teaching side, is legitimately world-class. There are not very many people in the world who do what you do, and far fewer that do it at your level. And so we can we can state that fact. Now
There's a difference between me saying that and you saying that, and you admitting that, and you going around telling everyone that. Those are all very different things.
Andrew Adams (06:12.791)
Yep, absolutely. I and I think if you are a longtime listener or viewer on YouTube of the show, you likely know that I am involved in drumming because drumming comes up a bit because it's a big part of my life. but I
have the ability to say I'm a world champion. Like I taught a pipe band that went to the world championships in Glasgow, Scotland, and they placed first in 2019. And most people don't know that that met me. They I'm a drummer, but they don't know that I legitimately can call myself a world champion.
Jeremy (06:50.902)
And and and this is this is not like what we do in in martial arts competition where someone hosts a tournament in a local elementary school and calls it a world championship. That this is this is actually, you know, there's there's a single governing organization that oversees these things and they are accepted as the single organization and people participate in that and that is what is meant by
A world championship.
Andrew Adams (07:22.263)
Yep, yep. It is is governed by the Royal Scottish Pipe Band Association, the R S PA, and pipe bands travel from literally all over the world Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, the US, all over the world to compete at these championships in Glasgow, Scotland every August. And in fact, when by the time this episode comes out, I will have just returned from the World Championships competing there again this year.
Jeremy (07:48.994)
Hmm. fun. Now
If you were to tell people and make it, you know, find ways to introduce this fact into conversation, this starts to drift from confidence to we we use the word swagger before because it's in our outline. But true confidence, especially among skill, and I'll prove this in a moment, isn't
Andrew Adams (08:07.18)
Mm-hmm.
Jeremy (08:22.346)
Loud. In fact, it's it's quiet. And here's how I'm gonna prove this. And I'm sure you've heard people say this.
The most dangerous person in the room is the one that remains calm when the violence erupts around them.
Andrew Adams (08:38.167)
Yeah, yep, I've definitely heard that before.
Jeremy (08:40.428)
We we've talked about that quite a bit as an industry. I'm not saying that we've talked about it much on this show, but it is something that I think a lot of us can relate to training the things that we train. Because what happens when someone is really, really good in the subject of violence? They don't
They don't allow the situation to take them off of their center.
Andrew Adams (09:08.641)
Yeah. Yeah, for for lack of a better word, they don't telegraph that they know what they're doing.
Jeremy (09:14.622)
Yeah, they they remain quiet. And I think that this is the case for most people who are truly confident in what they do. Because what what is it that happens when when I'm running around telling everybody I'm gonna share something that I don't think I've ever shared on the show? And I'll admit I am mildly uncomfortable saying this thing that is true.
The last time I did not win in empty hand forms competition was nineteen ninety-five.
Now, I will not pretend that I've competed a signific you know dozens of times each year since then. But through my teenage years, I reached a point where I stopped not getting first place. Since that time, I've competed maybe a handful of times, and I have I have won each time. And I believe that the reason I have earned first place in each of those competitions is in large part because.
I am confident and I walk into the ring knowing that it's been a really long time since I did not win first place in my division. Now, admittedly, there were so there was one grand championship. No, sorry, two grand championships that I did not win in that time. So it's not that I'm undefeated, it's that my division is my division, and I and I own that when I walk out there. And
Jeremy (10:52.008)
I I share this now just to to offer a martial arts rooted example, you know, to kind of go along with your drumming example.
Jeremy (11:03.672)
But I can't remember the last time I shared that fact with someone.
Jeremy (11:11.224)
How do we get there? How does that confidence build? Did I wake up one day? Did you wake up one day? Do any of us just, you know, I'm gonna be confident today? I'm gonna be confident. I'm gonna be the most confident person in the world. I'm so confident about my confidence that I people will confide in me.
Andrew Adams (11:20.129)
Yeah.
Andrew Adams (11:30.955)
No, I mean obviously it's not something that you just wake up one day and have. and I think to some degree, I think we would be remiss if we didn't talk at least acknowledge the fact that to some degree, and we've all said it and we've all heard it, fake it till you make it, right? in the the the pipe band world, the drumming world that I that I come from, when we go out and compete, all all of my drummers that when we go out, I always tell them like
Jeremy (11:47.48)
Yeah.
Andrew Adams (11:59.425)
You need to have a serious face. We're not joking around. It's serious. And that portra and you know I often call it drum face. but it portrays confidence that we are there to be serious, we're not there to joke around and to fool around. and that starts to tie carry into your own body of feeling confident, even if you perhaps don't f aren't a hundred percent confident, you wanna
Exude that you are and it can't help but through osmosis seep into your body.
Jeremy (12:35.074)
Yeah. And I think it is this aspect that is the most misunderstood. It is
I I I I tell competitors the same thing if they're gonna step into the ring. Your evaluation begins the moment your name is called. It's not when you start your form. If you're in a in open competition where maybe you you step in and you give your name and the name of the form to the referees or something. That's all part of it.
How you present yourself is relevant in martial arts. It's relevant elsewhere too. But you know, of course, we're talking about martial arts here. And I think that for those who do not have the confidence, they have a difficult time understanding the difference between confidence and arrogance.
Andrew Adams (13:39.608)
Yep. Yep. It that arrogance, that cockiness. and there's really no reason for the the arrogance and cockiness in in anything, with two exceptions. And and I I say this as a joke, but it's it's kind of true. I've often said that there are only two times when you are allowed to be really, really cocky. One when they when it is undeniably true. Michael Jordan
talks crap about how he can beat Andrew Adams one-on-one at basketball. You know what? He can be cocky about that because that's so obviously like true. The and the only other time is when it is exactly the opposite. If I want to be cocky about how I can beat Michael Jordan in a basketball game one-on-one, obviously I'm kidding. There's no way, right? That those are the I think those are the only two extremes where they're
Cockiness is allowed.
Jeremy (14:40.91)
And yes, but I'm gonna disagree with you at the same time. So in the first example, I don't see Michael Jordan or really anybody of significant skill and awareness of their skill being cocky when the the fact is so obvious.
Andrew Adams (15:00.471)
Well, I'm not saying he would, but it would be understandable if he's like, Come on, Andrew, I'm gonna smoke your I'm gonna smoke you if we play one on one. Like I I that's understandable.
Jeremy (15:10.778)
sure. I and and that's the I'm agreeing with you in that it is it is permitted, but w the challenge is I don't think it is likely.
Andrew Adams (15:16.45)
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew Adams (15:20.695)
I agree a thousand percent.
Jeremy (15:22.816)
Now, I think the the truth is is in the inverse. And I think when we talk about confidence and the the overstep into arrogance within the martial arts world, I think it occurs in your alternate example where you are saying that you're going to beat Michael Jordan at basketball. And there is, and and people need to listen carefully to what I'm about to say and not gloss over it. Because if you do, you're going to think I'm saying certain things that I do not mean.
Andrew Adams (15:36.195)
Mm-hmm.
Jeremy (15:53.197)
There is a portion of the martial arts industry. There's a not trivial number of martial artists who lack true confidence in themselves and their skills, whether as martial artist, practitioner, instructor, school owner, competitor, etc. And to compensate for that, they work really hard to tell everyone else how great they are.
Through the volunteering of certain information, like rank and title, through the insistence of how others treat them.
through the misrepresentation of facts about their skill training competition or their past. And what it really comes down to is a a lack of of self-esteem, that they are trying to use their status as martial artists to plug the holes in their own.
Andrew Adams (16:50.114)
Mm-hmm.
Jeremy (17:11.062)
In their own self-esteem. I was looking for a synonym, I didn't find it. And so where where I think this comes from is people not learning the lessons that are taught with failure. And I don't love the word failure, but failure. When when we screw up, when we don't win, when we don't pass the test, when we don't execute the technique, when any of these
Andrew Adams (17:26.914)
Mm.
Jeremy (17:39.663)
10 million things that could occur, occur. And instead of owning it and being a true martial artist and using it as an opportunity to improve, we go defensive and we build walls. And sometimes those walls involve requiring how other people behave.
Andrew Adams (17:52.853)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Andrew Adams (18:00.929)
Yeah, I I would say that there's no better way to become better at something than to learn through failure. Now that's not to say you can't get better without failing. It you can get better and not fail, but if you are consistently not failing, I think you're not generally pushing yourself to get better. And failure is how you learn. You learn what didn't I mean, there's a a a common quote, whether it's true or not, that
You know, Thomas Edison way back in the day, which was a Wednesday, by the way, was being interviewed by the newspaper when he was trying to develop the light bulb. And he had not he they were like, so you figured it out? And he said, No, I've I've destroyed like three hundred light bulbs. I haven't figured it out yet. And they said, so you failed three hundred times? He said, No, I figured out three hundred times what doesn't work.
And and he used those examples as to figure out, okay, well this doesn't work. Let me figure out maybe this works. Nope, this doesn't work. Okay. And that's how he eventually created the light bulb. I'm not saying that story is true. That's just as I've heard it. But I think the
Jeremy (19:09.676)
It it it's pretty close and and I it's specifically around if I'm remembering history correctly, the filament in the light bulb and the number is ten thousand. And he said he found nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine ways to not make that filament.
Andrew Adams (19:15.853)
Yeah. Yep.
Andrew Adams (19:23.529)
Exactly. But that's how he grew and so and became better and that's where you start to get that confidence. And and I think the people who often, for lack of a better word, chirp about it, who are constantly, whether it's verbally or online or whatever, talking about themselves in this way, don't realize that real confidence often looks a lot quieter.
And we mentioned that earlier with the person who stays really calm in the rim of violence.
Jeremy (19:54.573)
Yeah. I I I would I would say learning something requires failure. I'm gonna go even further than you are. The only way we learn, we truly learn is failure through failure. And here's here's how I see that. In the context of martial arts, if I go to class and I am given techniques and examples and I work through those in controlled situations.
And I never progress beyond those controlled situations. I have a theoretical understanding of how techniques might apply. The only way I learn how those techniques actually apply for me in a variety of situations is learning how they don't apply. And that means.
A variety of yes, still controlled scenarios where various aspects are escalated. Speed is escalated, or you know, sensory deprivation, or or yeah, something turns up the intensity. Because we've all learned things and gone, okay, I I think I know how I'm going to use this. And you go to use it and you go, wait, that doesn't work that way. And
Andrew Adams (21:00.919)
intensity.
Andrew Adams (21:11.994)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeremy (21:16.566)
Where where I I I start to take this, and I think I've said this on the show before, when you when you dig into happiness, and this will relate, I promise, when you dig into happiness by age group, the happiest group of people are those in the 60s in their 60s. Why? Because they know what they don't like to do. So they know what they like to do. They spend a lifetime figuring out what life doesn't look like for them. And as martial artists, that is what we're doing.
Andrew Adams (21:36.151)
Hm, yeah.
Andrew Adams (21:42.059)
Mm.
Jeremy (21:44.899)
You've heard me say many times on the show, there are only so many ways to move. Now I've seen plenty of white belts, and I've done this myself, come up with, but wait a second, what if I do this thing? wait, that works so rarely that I'm not even going to practice it.
And so that becomes the ever growing pile of what I'm not going to do.
When you look at the best martial artists in anything, they tend to specialize. When you look at the best fighters, they have a handful of techniques. Bill Wallace had three kicks and four punches.
Jeremy (22:27.232)
Seven techniques? That's it. Quote, that's it. That's all he needs. Boxers have four and some modifications. Most martial artists, if you watch them spar in any way, it's under five techniques. And I think it's the the the move from five to seven that made Bill Wallace so great.
Andrew Adams (22:30.928)
Yeah.
Andrew Adams (22:46.305)
Mm. Yeah. And and I think people often confuse noise for confidence, right? They people that that
Jeremy (22:54.22)
Mm.
Andrew Adams (22:59.037)
Aren't long in their journey in martial arts. And and I mean we're using martial arts as the example, but it's in anything. People who haven't done martial arts a long time, they see people talking loudly, and I don't mean verbally talking loudly, but talking all the time or commenting on things online, and they confuse that. that must be a really confident person. But it that's not always the case.
Jeremy (23:23.18)
The most I'm glad you brought up online. When it when I look at social media, the most awkward content that I see comes from those who are confident and don't want to brag.
Andrew Adams (23:39.447)
Yep. Yep.
Jeremy (23:40.331)
It it's the paradox I feel myself in. So that's why I tend if you follow anything I do on social media, it's a lot of questions. It's not about me. It's about other people because I'm not gonna here's how you kick, here's how you punch, here's how you handle this. No, because I figure out your own stuff. I'll I'll if if if we get a chance to be in the same room, I might show you some of my thoughts, but that doesn't translate well online, and I don't need the approval of others to push me past that.
and deal with with the the hateful comments. Like it's not it's not worth my time.
Andrew Adams (24:16.577)
Yeah. Yeah, it's a really good point.
Jeremy (24:20.472)
How can schools help this? How can martial arts schools, how can martial arts leadership help students understand the difference between confidence and arrogance?
Andrew Adams (24:36.237)
That that's a very difficult thing to teach.
Jeremy (24:41.698)
Yeah. I think it comes from discussion. I think discussion is a huge piece of it. And I think that more martial arts schools need to facilitate discussion in the adult groups. There are plenty of schools that have chat, you know, mat chats with kids. What about with adults?
It's another way of helping your students learn. You should be doing it. You should be, even if it's not full-on discussion, give them a question to ponder at the beginning class or end of class or something. And I think that for me, the point that I would be trying to get my students to recognize is you know you are confident on something when someone challenges you and you don't feel an emotional requirement to respond.
Andrew Adams (25:14.369)
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (25:35.691)
Mm, that's interesting, yeah.
Jeremy (25:37.707)
If I tell you, Andrew, you suck at drumming. We're we're friends, so maybe this doesn't. If a stranger comes up to you on the street and they're like, Andrew, you suck at drumming, you'd probably say, okay, have a nice day. Right? Like, I'm gonna go over there now because you are confident enough in your drumming skill that you just, you know, we we talked, it wasn't that long ago we had the the example of, you know.
Andrew Adams (25:42.54)
Andrew Adams (25:53.716)
Yeah. All right.
Jeremy (26:05.538)
The sky's green, okay. You're so far off base, it doesn't matter to me. But if someone came up to you and they challenged you on some aspect that you are actively working on in your martial arts training, you know, something that that you are not fully confident in, maybe it's a new form or something, you may not respond, but you might have that emotional response. Right. And I think that that's how we know.
Andrew Adams (26:31.543)
Yeah. Yep.
Jeremy (26:36.224)
And and thus and this is where I'm gonna go a little bit further, and and I do mean every word that I I I'm going to say here.
100% of cases where someone challenges, no, not 100%. I'm gonna walk that back slightly. Almost 100% of cases online where a stranger challenges someone and they respond. The person, you know, someone posts something and a stranger, I'm I'm that's an important word, comments and says, You're dumb, you suck, that wouldn't work, whatever it is. When the original person
feels the need to engage in an unproductive attack, it is because of a lack of
Andrew Adams (27:19.905)
Hmm. Yeah, yeah, I would absolutely agree. I would absolutely agree.
Jeremy (27:22.836)
Now now the what the 1% remainder there is that the the person is responding because they're trying to push their content and comments going back and forth can boost the post in the algorithm. But that's not what I observe of most people. Most people, it's I am not fully confident in who I am, what I've done, or what I've said, and I need to defend how I feel.
Andrew Adams (27:36.642)
Yeah.
Jeremy (27:52.426)
For my o the sake of my own ego.
Andrew Adams (27:55.128)
Yeah. Yeah. I would agree a hundred percent that there's really a hundred percent about you ninety nine percent. Yeah. 'Cause there's really no need if you know, if I post something martial arts related and someone's like, that wouldn't work, I'm you know, come fight me, my response would be n no, have a nice day. Like I don't really care. Like
Jeremy (27:59.415)
A hundred percent about my ninety nine percent.
Jeremy (28:15.466)
I I wouldn't even respond. Right. I have sure.
Andrew Adams (28:17.281)
Yeah. Well I mean my internal response. Like I wouldn't I wouldn't respond physically, like I wouldn't actually respond.
Jeremy (28:22.518)
I have watched far too many people give more time and attention to obvious trolling than they ever do to the people who actually like what they say and want to engage and have conversation and learn from it. And that makes me really sad. Imagine if that happened in a class. You've got all you've got all your students trying really hard, and then you've got one who's
Andrew Adams (28:32.514)
Mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (28:42.808)
Yeah.
Jeremy (28:52.002)
You know, who doesn't really want to be there and they get all of your time. What happens to that school? It closes. Yeah. So beyond beyond conversation within among the students, I think instructors, we've talked about this, but not so much lately. Instructors bear a responsibility to watch for arrogance and to check it.
Andrew Adams (28:58.625)
Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty silly.
Andrew Adams (29:21.313)
Mm-hmm.
Jeremy (29:22.028)
I don't know if you've ever been in this role. I know I have, where I'm in a c I'm in a school, maybe I'm visiting, hopefully not, because I don't like this when I'm visiting. And they've got somebody who gets a little too big for their britches and they think that they're really, really good. And I will I've been asked, sometimes in tests, they need to be checked a little bit. I don't love doing that, but it was done to me. I needed it.
Andrew Adams (29:45.581)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Jeremy (29:51.171)
And a lot of us need it. A lot of us need to be shown there is so much more path up the mountain, so to speak. We need to act appropriately. And if you're in an environment where you look around and you're like, I'm in the front of the room and I'm the best one here and nobody can touch me, it is possible, maybe even expected, that confidence drifts into arrogance.
Andrew Adams (30:16.283)
Mm. It's easy to have that happen and more difficult to check it, but I think people need to evaluate themselves at that.
Jeremy (30:23.15)
Yep. Yeah. And and to instructors, if you choose not to do that, you're creating a problem that is not going to get better on its own. The sooner you see arrogance, the sooner you need to cut it.
Andrew Adams (30:32.833)
No and and I
Yeah, and I've seen it firsthand. I've I've been in a school where there was someone promoted to black belt. They had left so when I started training, they were not there, but they came back later. They were they had already gotten their black belt. and he was incredibly arrogant and a jerk. And I asked my instructor about it once, and he said yeah, he was kinda like that before he got his black belt and I was hoping that after he got his black belt that he would change and
Jeremy (30:47.246)
Mm.
Andrew Adams (31:08.331)
I I didn't question it, I let it go because he was my instructor, you know, I wasn't gonna tell him his place, but in my head I was like, How did you ever think that was ever going to fix itself?
Jeremy (31:19.49)
Promoting someone has never fixed a problem.
Andrew Adams (31:22.305)
Nope. Nope.
Jeremy (31:24.448)
Unless the problem is this person is complaining about not receiving their next rank. It's the only problem it solves. It does create other problems though. Right. Well it's a new problem, right? You know, I want my blue belt. Okay, good fine. I want my brown belt.
Andrew Adams (31:29.923)
Well no, see 'cause even then 'cause then they just want their next one. Yeah, yeah.
Andrew Adams (31:40.033)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeremy (31:42.009)
Yeah. All right. For those of you out there, how'd we do? Where did we miss? We are confident in our conversation and what we've shared with you, but we are also aware enough to recognize that we never get to a hundred percent of a conversation because it's a conversation. It's never complete and we want to invite you to be part of it. And the best way to do that is through our Facebook page, Martial Arts Radio.
Not martial arts radio behind the scenes. That's the old group. Don't go in there. That's that's inactive. But the martial arts radio page we post every episode there. And there is sometimes we wish it was more conversation about episodes. So please, if you have a thought, jump in there, share it. But maybe you don't do Facebook or maybe you're, you know, you you you want to respond right away and you can't find whatever. You can email us for this or other reasons. Jeremy at Andrew at Whistlekick.
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Andrew Adams (32:49.58)
And check us out on YouTube as well. You can you can always leave comments on YouTube. you can you can watch us there. If you watch us there, you'll get to see this cool thing that that I always have in my pocket. I have it on I Yeah, I I have it I have it on me pretty much all the only time I don't have it is when I'm wearing my uniform, and that's only because my Ghee doesn't have pockets. But it's pretty much always always on me. And if you
Jeremy (32:52.92)
That's true.
Jeremy (33:02.691)
yeah, from that thing we were talking about earlier. That's from from from that one.
Jeremy (33:13.358)
Mm.
Andrew Adams (33:17.56)
go to YouTube, you'll get to see what that thing is. But I'm not going to tell you what it is, just to go and take a look.
Jeremy (33:21.644)
Yeah. And if you watch, you can see the extensive whistlekick themed wardrobe that between you and I we have. We we've there's a there's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. Thank you, everyone. Thanks for being here. Sign up for the newsletter at whistlekickmartialarts radio.com. Get every episode emailed right to you in both audio and video. And we appreciate you spending some time with us. Until next time, train hard, smile, and have a great day.
Andrew Adams (33:29.506)
That's right.
Andrew Adams (33:47.364)
Train hard, smile, have a great day.