Episode 1161 - Why Bruce Lee Still Shapes Martial Arts: Even When People Get Him Wrong
Jeremy and Andrew discuss why Bruce Lee is still talked about today and how his legacy still shapes martial arts, even when some people get him wrong.
Why Bruce Lee Still Shapes Martial Arts: Even When People Get Him Wrong - Episode 1161
SUMMARY
In this episode, Jeremy and Andrew explore the lasting influence of Bruce Lee on martial arts, discussing his unique contributions, the myths surrounding his legacy, and the misinterpretations of his philosophy. They delve into the significance of Jeet Kune Do, the importance of questioning traditional practices, and how Bruce Lee's approach to martial arts continues to inspire modern practitioners. The conversation highlights the need for a nuanced understanding of Bruce Lee's teachings and the relevance of his ideas in today's martial arts culture.
TAKEAWAYS
Bruce Lee's legacy continues to shape martial arts today.
He was a pioneer in bringing martial arts to mainstream cinema.
The myth of Bruce Lee often overshadows the reality of his life.
Jeet Kune Do emphasizes adaptability and questioning traditional methods.
Misquotes of Bruce Lee can lead to misunderstandings of his philosophy.
Bruce Lee's influence is evident in modern martial arts training.
He rejected rigidity and encouraged a blend of styles.
The oversimplification of his teachings is a disservice to his legacy.
Bruce Lee would likely advocate for exploration over argument in training.
His approach to martial arts was rooted in a philosophy of inquiry and adaptation.
CHAPTERS
00:00 The Enduring Legacy of Bruce Lee
02:55 Understanding Bruce Lee's Influence on Martial Arts
05:51 The Myth vs. The Man: Bruce Lee's True Impact
08:58 The Philosophy of Jeet Kune Do
12:00 Misinterpretations and Misquotes of Bruce Lee
15:02 The Relevance of Bruce Lee in Modern Martial Arts
18:00 Bruce Lee's Approach to Questioning and Learning
21:01 The Debate on Bruce Lee's Martial Arts Philosophy
24:06 The Future of Martial Arts: Lessons from Bruce Lee
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SHOW TRANSCRIPT
Jeremy (00:39.98)
Yep. Okay. Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Whistlekick Martial Arts Radio, the world's number one traditional martial arts podcast. And on today's episode, Andrew and I are going to talk about why Bruce Lee still shapes martial arts, even when people get them wrong. If you're new to the show, welcome. Thank you for spending some time with us. I'm Jeremy Lesniak, joined by my good friend and co-host, Andrew Adams.
Andrew, thanks for being here. It's nice to see you, my friend.
Andrew Adams (01:11.144)
Thanks. It's nice to be seen. Because the alternative is it looks like this.
Jeremy (01:15.638)
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Andrew Adams (01:56.019)
Yeah.
Jeremy (02:13.887)
all of that. To those of you new, welcome. To those of you returning, thanks for being with us again. And so Andrew, with that, we're we haven't done an episode about Bruce Lee in a very long time, but we've certainly done episodes that incorporate Bruce Lee.
Andrew Adams (02:30.321)
Yeah, for sure. you know, the the a handful whether it was talking about how we would have fought Bruce Lee's character from Enter the Dragon with with Santa Sentai Seth. obviously the Matthew Polly book that came out, you had a discussion with him about that. So he has been involved in this podcast, but we haven't done it in a while.
Jeremy (02:38.455)
Mm-hmm.
Jeremy (02:55.039)
It it is hard to talk about the history of martial arts from any s sort of cultural angle without talking about Bruce Lee. Even though he's been gone over 50 years, he is still the most recognizable martial artist on earth. And we used to say, you know, second place is of course Chuck Norris, who has now also passed away.
Andrew Adams (03:09.127)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Jeremy (03:23.945)
And we did a retrospective not too long ago, if folks want to check out that episode. But I think the part that is interesting and the focus of our episode today is going to be about how people get Bruce Lee wrong. And even when they get him wrong, because of his scope, it still influences what so many of us do and talk about as martial artists.
Andrew Adams (03:49.032)
Yeah, he's definitely still talked about a lot. We actually have a few YouTube shorts that we've had p published where Bill Wallace and a few others discussed Bruce Lee a a bit, and they still get commented on on a fairly regular basis.
Jeremy (04:08.289)
And these are from years ago.
Andrew Adams (04:10.107)
Yeah, the I mean the the recordings were probably two, three, gosh, three or four years ago now at this point.
Jeremy (04:15.287)
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I I I think when when we start talking about Bruce Lee, especially in this way, to me, the first question that comes up is why? Why him? What was it about him that made him so different? And I think it's an intersection of two things. One, he had some some fame, some notoriety. He was a legitimate martial artist that was put on screen.
Andrew Adams (04:42.461)
Mm.
Jeremy (04:43.27)
And that was something that through the sixties wasn't commonplace.
Andrew Adams (04:48.241)
Yeah. I I I think the fact that he was really the first martial arts putting an air quotes movie star, right? I mean back in the sixties and even prior to you would see Kung Fu cinema. I mean there there were martial arts movies around, but they weren't mainstream. They certainly weren't mainstream in the US. perhaps overseas, but here in the US he's really the first one.
To be to have broken out into that, and that's huge.
Jeremy (05:22.167)
Yeah, yeah, and he very quickly moved from a supporting role to a leading role. And you know, we have to remember the times as, you know, Asian descent. There was still a stigma, there was still prejudice running rampant, and his charisma and his skill and his drive were enough to overcome that, which I think is amazing.
But then the other piece that I think becomes relevant to us today, beyond movies, is his willingness to question things. We as traditional martial artists, it hasn't been that long that we have felt comfortable broadly questioning things. And when you think about the time that Bruce Lee was doing what he was doing and asking the questions he was asking.
Most people were not asking questions.
Andrew Adams (06:22.407)
Yep, yep, that's a really good point to make that back then it was very much for lack of a better word, blindly following and doing what you were told or or expected to do. With with rare exceptions, I'm sure.
Jeremy (06:37.983)
And so, with that, with his martial arts skill connecting him to popular culture, and with his writings and his exploration of martial arts connecting him to martial artists who trained, we ended up with a bridge, a pretty significant bridge that we haven't seen very often. When we do talk about prominent martial artists that have fame on a large scale.
They also tend to have that. There are plenty of people who've done martial arts in movies that the martial arts industry does not respect. There are plenty of people who are phenomenal martial artists that have had very small, if any, role in popular culture, and the rest of the world doesn't even know they exist. But Bruce Lee had those two pieces. And I think that that's why he is the one that we're talking about today and not somebody else.
Andrew Adams (07:25.245)
Yeah. Yeah that's
Andrew Adams (07:33.489)
Yeah, yeah. And I think that coupled with being the first. You know, lots of people, lots of martial artists will know who Michael J. White is. Phenomenal martial artist. With I don't think anybody would question his you know ability as a martial artist. And he definitely is a movie star, but Joe Schmoe off the street, non-martial artist, is not going to know who Michael J. White is.
Jeremy (07:50.764)
Mm-hmm.
Jeremy (07:58.422)
Right, probably not by name, you know. Per perhaps perhaps recognize him, yeah. I I think also Bruce Lee died maybe even before his prime. And I think that that is something that allowed the world to put him in a time capsule. We do tend to think positively, remember people positively after they pass.
Andrew Adams (08:00.092)
Yeah. They'd know him by sight, perhaps.
Andrew Adams (08:11.408)
Mm. I would agree with that.
Andrew Adams (08:20.785)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Jeremy (08:27.799)
That's a good thing. And because of the way the world was, because there were not 10 million movies, we didn't have Netflix back then. If a movie came out, it was a big deal. And a lot of people would go see it. And so here you have this person that so many people see, and the style of his movies were unlike anything else at the time in Western culture. And then he ups and dies.
And that's also a big deal. I mean, that's something that we we still kind of latch on today. When a celebrity passes away, we talk about it.
Andrew Adams (09:08.913)
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. And I think I I don't want to glaze over the fact that you brought up as well that movies didn't come out as often back then and now they're so much more accessible and so for lack of a better word, the the market is oversaturated with with choice. And you're right, back then when he released his movies, there weren't a ton of them in the way that they are.
Jeremy (09:25.185)
Mm. Yeah.
Jeremy (09:36.674)
And all of this combines to to give us a bit of a difference between the real Bruce Lee, the man Bruce Lee, and the myth of Bruce Lee. And there have been so many books and podcasts and articles and even documentaries exploring this subject. And we're not gonna dig into that because I'll be I'll be honest, I can only scratch the surface on that piece of it.
But we do see even today, even fifty plus years later, interest and people digging up new stuff talking about Bruce Lee and the differences between who we thought he was and who he actually was.
Andrew Adams (10:20.658)
Yeah. And I think one of the things that compounds that all of the the discussions not interjection, but the speculation as to what he would have done or could have done is is exacerbated by the fact that he did pass away at a at at such a young age. I think you're right. I think he likely passed away before his prime and the fact that he never
Jeremy (10:37.698)
Yeah.
Andrew Adams (10:51.336)
did a lot of things that we typically expect martial artists to do. You know, as far as I understand, he never he wasn't into sp point fighting, he didn't do tournaments, he didn't do competitions, he didn't do a lot of the things that people would have expected him to have done because he passed away so early. and I think that doesn't help the conversations.
Jeremy (11:15.339)
I think it also when we look at the mythos of Bruce Lee, everybody that exists long enough does stuff that other people don't like.
We don't have nearly as much material about Bruce Lee that people could point at and dislike him for. Almost everybody gets canceled, or there's an attempt to cancel them today. And if Bruce Lee was around today, somebody would be doing that.
Andrew Adams (11:35.156)
Yeah, that's a really good thing.
Andrew Adams (11:39.668)
Yeah.
Jeremy (11:45.752)
But he passed before we could do that. And I think that that gives us this larger than life figure, this this mythic proportion that we get to point at. And for good and for bad, of course.
Andrew Adams (11:47.346)
Yeah, that's a good point.
Andrew Adams (12:00.69)
Yeah, that's a good point.
Jeremy (12:03.819)
The style of no style, right? Jeet Kundo. And if you if you know anything about Jeet Kune Do, you know that there are two primary camps within Jeet Kune Do. We're not gonna go down that rabbit hole. But what it is is interesting today is the oversimplification of what people think Bruce Lee means when he says that, the style of no style or style versus.
Andrew Adams (12:07.166)
Mm-hmm.
Jeremy (12:33.545)
No style.
Andrew Adams (12:37.906)
Yeah, I I think it's difficult it's a difficult concept, I think, for some people to wrap their head around because we are so dogmatic about styles. it's hard to break away from that. and you know, speaking personally, I feel like when Bruce Lee says things like it is a style with no style, I I personally and and again I'm speaking for myself, not for Jeremy or Whistlekick, I liken that to mean
More of what he then went on to say later, which is that taking all of these things from all of these different styles and using it. But that doesn't mean that there's no style within what he's doing. He's doing it with his own flair, with a you know, but but he didn't start with one particular thing and then he just went and took whatever he wanted from everything.
Jeremy (13:32.049)
And I think all too often not only this aspect of his writings and and his exploration of martial arts, it gets it gets used to justify what people do.
Andrew Adams (13:45.552)
Okay.
Jeremy (13:49.944)
I I don't I don't want to work on all of them, you know, I'm not gonna work on on three different kicks. I'm just gonna do one because Bruce Lee said he feared the the man who did one kick 10,000 times. Right? You can you can find in the same way that people will often clip out small elements of religious texts to justify actions or words for or against, you can use Bruce Lee's writings because there are a lot of.
To say or do roughly the same thing.
But we you know, we today we live in a a soundbite world. But if you want the full context of what he's saying about anything, about what anybody's saying about anything, you can't do that in seven words or twenty seconds. That's why we do the episodes that we do. It's why we are not a a ninety second soundbite driven show.
Andrew Adams (14:48.818)
Yeah. Yep. You're absolutely right. And and I don't think we would ever want to be that because there's a lot of context and nuance in what we discuss and we lost a lot of that when he passed.
Jeremy (15:02.59)
Yeah. It's I think the oversimplification really does come from the same place. All oversimplification comes from laziness.
Andrew Adams (15:11.132)
Mm, mm.
Jeremy (15:12.865)
Detail and nuance takes work, takes effort. If you want to act like you know Bruce Lee and what he said and meant by reading a couple clip, you know, memes online, fine. If you actually want to know, you read everything he wrote. And you understand it historically. You understand the early writings versus the later writings. You put it into the context of the man as a martial artist.
Andrew Adams (15:27.24)
Yeah.
Jeremy (15:39.957)
You don't turn to the last page of the last book and say, Well, this is what it is.
Andrew Adams (15:43.635)
Yeah. And unfortunately, even then you still cause you one person putting their thoughts down on paper will never have the same amount of impact or understanding as a conversation, right? It never. It's just never gonna be that way. And he also passed so early that he never had a chance to change his mind on things.
So people reading his writings now saying this is what Bruce Lee thought, okay, that was what he thought at that particular point when he wrote it. There's nothing that says twenty years after he would have changed his mind and felt something different. We don't have that luxury of knowing.
Jeremy (16:31.322)
Anyone who's at all a scholar of traditional martial arts and digs into
Let's call them old masters, founders of style, will find that there are inconsistencies in their writings. That when we look at forms, they taught them slightly differently to different people or did them differently at different times in their life. And I think that that it what is d human beings are not 100% consistent. It's almost impossible, especially if you're a thoughtful person like Bruce Lee was. And so, yes, I would imagine that we would have had.
some of those questions about was it this or that? And in fact, I think that that's the the greatest legacy that he left us. The thing that traditional martial artists can can learn most from Bruce Lee is the fact that he was willing to question everything.
Andrew Adams (17:28.764)
Yeah, absolutely. And was not and was not stuck was not stuck in anything.
Jeremy (17:30.732)
There is go ahead. No, no, if if you're if you took even a a a basic level college philosophy class, you're probably familiar with Descartes, Kagito Ergo Sum, right? Probably the most famous three words in philosophy. And the whole premise of of Descartes' writings there was to start with, okay.
What is real? You could imagine Bruce Lee doing something sort of similar. What is martial arts? What should I use? How should I train? Starting with those really fundamental questions. And those are questions at a level that we rarely ask. Most of us do not ask. Most of us would ask, well, when would I use this technique? Most of us do not ask.
Does this technique matter enough for me to train something else less?
Andrew Adams (18:31.432)
Yeah. Yep.
Jeremy (18:32.875)
Right. And to me, that's that's sort of the the equivalent question. And when I look at Bruce Lee, that's the legacy that I see. And if you've spent any time with this show, you know those are the sorts of questions I ask. And so I I I I don't pretend that that my approach is unique. I'm not saying that, you know, I had a different approach and then I read Bruce Lee's writings.
But I will say that I think he and I would have had an interesting conversation around his philosophy and how he approaches the thoughtful side of his training.
Andrew Adams (19:09.426)
Hm. And that makes sense because you were a philosophy major in college.
Jeremy (19:13.421)
It was it was.
Jeremy (19:18.859)
I I don't think we could
Jeremy (19:23.041)
I don't I don't think we can call this a complete episode on this subject without talking about and we we alluded to it earlier how often Bruce Lee is misquoted and used to justify a million and one things as if he is the martial arts deity that we all pray to.
Jeremy (19:50.018)
What's my my favorite one, my favorite meme that I've seen, is a a picture of Bruce Lee. And maybe we can find it for the show notes. And the quote is I didn't say half the sh that you people think I said.
Andrew Adams (20:03.816)
Ha ha
Jeremy (20:05.823)
Some something something to that to that effect. And
Whether it's summarized poorly or misquoted or even just shortened to fit our reduced attention span, losing the context, I think it's a a disservice.
Andrew Adams (20:29.0)
Yeah, and I think it happens, I mean, obviously with more than just Bruce Lee, I think we as a society tend to do that because it's easier to just have a short little thing than getting the context of everything. But you're right, it happens with Bruce Lee a lot. People will throw out one line examples of something he said or something that he wrote, and and not give anything else.
Jeremy (21:01.493)
I think the the place where I find this most damaging is people take a I think a a inappropriate short step from Bruce Lee's Bruce Lee's writings and Jee Gundo in general to mixed martial arts. And a lot of people will refer to Bruce Lee as the original mixed martial artist.
Andrew Adams (21:18.749)
Hm.
Jeremy (21:27.487)
Sure. I don't I'm not gonna argue that it's not my point. But when they do that, it becomes
I think unfortunately common for people to say, well, if I imagine Bruce Lee doing that today, then I can, you know, take this kick from Muay Thai and just train that kick. And I can take this grappling from BJJ and only train those bits and lose so much of the context. I do not know anyone, and maybe there are people out there, but I have never met anyone.
Who approaches their training in such a granular way that has any true skill?
Andrew Adams (22:13.0)
Hmm, hmm.
Jeremy (22:14.805)
Now, maybe they're doing that not to gain actual skill. It's a practice philosophy and they find it academically interesting. Sure, fine. I'm not going to take that away from you. But that's never the approach that I see. Granted, it's it, you know, it always comes online. It's it's some. This was Bruce Lee's thought pattern, so I'm going to apply that to what I have available to me today. I'm going to take these two kicks and this.
And this grab and these this blocking philosophy and this footwork, and I'm gonna smush it all together, and I'm gonna train it, and I'm gonna be awesome, and nobody will be able to touch me. But I train at home in my basement, never with anybody else. I never compete. I never work, I never show anyone what I'm doing because at the end of the day I'm ultimately afraid, but I've constructed this reality where my ego's intact.
Andrew Adams (23:06.628)
Mm. Yeah.
Jeremy (23:14.697)
His influence obviously remains strong. You know, we we again we're doing this episode. Gone 50 plus years, we're doing this episode. And let's face it, part of why we're doing this episode and part of why we look to come up with a new approach to talk about Bruce Lee is because when we drop an episode with Bruce Lee in the title, it gets more than average attention. You gotta give the people what they want.
Andrew Adams (23:34.236)
Like like I said, yeah, like I said, I I respond to comments on our YouTube stuff and the stuff about Bruce Lee continually still gets I responded to some comments literally this morning.
Jeremy (23:51.222)
I think I think the influence is a combination of a few things. One, he did not exist long enough to be found fallible in the way that martial artists like to tear each other down.
Andrew Adams (24:06.578)
Yeah, I think that's the biggest reason.
Jeremy (24:12.063)
And two, well, I guess it's a continuation of that. Because of that, and because no one else exists with that persona, he has been elevated. He is, you know, if if par pardon me from for borrowing a religious metaphor, but if if there was a when we talk about the martial arts mountain.
If anybody's walking down it with a couple of tablets, I can't imagine it's anybody but Bruce Lee.
Andrew Adams (24:49.896)
Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
Jeremy (24:52.383)
And so when we when we revere him as an industry, there's actually a good amount of social proof. If you attack Bruce Lee online, it it is it is all but
religious in the way people will defend him.
Andrew Adams (25:12.564)
Absolutely.
Jeremy (25:15.455)
And I think one of the best examples is whenever you talk about Bruce Lee and what if he fought someone? You know, at what was he, five seven of buck thirty, buck thirty five? That is a small human being.
Andrew Adams (25:28.616)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Jeremy (25:34.175)
And people will talk about, you know, he would he'd do fine against Mike Tyson. And people ha just the man can do no wrong. Now I I want everyone to understand that when we when we talk about these things, we're not trying to
Speak ill of the dead. 'Cause I think that that's something that as a as a society we we've fallen down on. We have no problem trashing people have passed away, and I don't think that that's appropriate.
Jeremy (26:06.753)
But I think if we're going to lift him up and revere him, we have to be honest about why and the good and the bad and how that impacts what we do.
Andrew Adams (26:16.338)
Yeah, yep. Good point. And
My response when someone asks inevitably, well, h Bruce Lee would have won against XYZ person, my response is usually, why does it matter?
Jeremy (26:33.409)
Right. His contributions to what we have and do obviously have nothing to do with his fight record, so we don't need to invent one.
Andrew Adams (26:41.948)
Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep.
Now do we wanna like
Do we want to go into
How do I I'm trying to figure out how to word this and get it out. Like, you know, do we think that Bruce Lee really rejected traditional martial arts? You know, people that's a a comment that people bring up a a lot. And I I think my personal feeling is that he I don't think he hated traditional martial arts. I think he hated closed mindedness.
Jeremy (27:11.668)
Yeah.
Jeremy (27:20.593)
I I I am I am not going to pretend that I have enough understanding of his writings that I'm I can confidently speak for him. Right. There there are some of you out there who've read everything Bruce Lee ever wrote. You've got a better, you know, more qualified opinion than I do. But when I look at everything that I understand of him.
Andrew Adams (27:30.312)
Yeah.
Jeremy (27:47.987)
It wasn't a rejection. It was a it wasn't a rejection of the arts. It was a rejection of the rigidity.
Andrew Adams (27:55.026)
Yeah. Yep. That's where I was going with it.
Jeremy (27:57.826)
And and I think that that is important. And I think we're seeing a lot of that now. How many schools today train different martial arts in their school? Sometimes it's different classes, sometimes it's the same class. People ask me what I teach. It's karate, but it's also not. There's other stuff in there that I've learned elsewhere that I think fits in. And I think that most of us have.
Andrew Adams (28:10.837)
Mm-hmm.
Jeremy (28:26.197)
some mixture of what we train, teach, and value today, I think a lot of that goes back to I think you can trace a lot of that back to Bruce Lee's questions.
Andrew Adams (28:38.857)
Yep, I think you're right.
Jeremy (28:43.083)
Why do we argue about him so much?
Andrew Adams (28:47.933)
I mean, I think we talked about the reasons already, which is that he didn't live long enough for people to see tons of flaws. Not to say he didn't have them, but and so because of that, people always just put him on a pedestal and think he can do no wrong. And so when someone com says anything contrary to him being the best, people tend to disagree, and that's where the argument starts.
Jeremy (29:18.263)
You know, I think if if if he was alive today, I think there are some aspects to our modern martial arts culture that Bruce Lee would really hate. And I think first and foremost, it's people who prioritize arguing over training. I think he would be the first person in line to say, if you think this, let's go figure out if you're right. And not from the I'm gonna fight you to prove you the wrong way, but let's go explore that.
Andrew Adams (29:31.581)
Mm. Yep.
Jeremy (29:47.604)
Let's research it. You and I have talked, Andrew, about the concept of martial science, that attitude. We did an episode on that, if I remember correctly, a couple of years ago. I I think maybe he was the original martial scientist.
Andrew Adams (29:53.087)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Andrew Adams (30:02.203)
Mm. Yeah. I think another thing he would hate about martial arts culture today is that there are still schools and and recent episode came out last week. Rex Thompson talked about this in his interview about being an island and that there are schools out there that are still islands. They just they stay on their own little plant their own little island, their own little land, and they have zero interest in
branching out into the sea and seeing what else is out there. And I don't think Bruce Lee would be on board with that type of school, just in general.
Jeremy (30:39.601)
I I I agree. I agree. Take what what is it? Take what works, reject the rest. Here, let me get that quote right.
Jeremy (30:52.567)
Take what is useful. Research your own experience. Absorb what is useful. Reject what is useless and add what is essentially your own. How do you research your own experience if you are in an echo chamber? You don't.
Andrew Adams (31:08.201)
Yeah. Yep. Exactly, exactly. So I think that's something that he would not be on board with. However, something I do think he would have been on board with is a meridote, which is the best of all, the worst of none.
Jeremy (31:22.273)
I I I think you were right. I think I think you would have gotten a kick out of that. I th I think you I think I think at the end of the day he would be frustrated by a lot of what's happening in the way that many of us are, but I think he would be optimistic.
Andrew Adams (31:45.097)
Yeah, I can see that.
Jeremy (31:45.099)
At least that's what I I want to think because that's where I'm at. I am frustrated but optimistic.
Andrew Adams (31:49.715)
Yeah.
Andrew Adams (31:53.769)
Yep.
Jeremy (31:55.064)
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Yep. Yep.
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A little bit.
Jeremy (33:14.283)
But overall, remember, why do we do this? We want you to think. We want you to ask questions. We want you to deepen your exploration and understanding of your martial arts training because that makes you a better martial artist. Until next time, train hard.
Andrew Adams (33:28.991)
Smile.
Jeremy (33:30.445)
And have a great day.